[With historian Arnold Toynbee:] They laugh a lot, these two great historians, enjoying each other’s company. To seize this rare opportunity I ask, “Srila Prabhupada, what is your view of the future—the future of history?” Prabhupada: That is described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Governmental power will go to the rascals and thieves, rogues. And their only business will be how to exploit the people. So on one side, by not sufficient rain, there will be scarcity of foodstuff, and on other side, the government will tax like anything…Only Krishna conscious people will be free from all these calamities…That is also stated, that for ten thousand years Krishna consciousness movement will increase…After ten thousand years, the gloomy picture of Kali-yuga will return. Still there is time. Ten thousand years is not a small period.”